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Ok the mayor should not be calling fiscal critics "crazies". It makes him look poorly. And Mr. Howell should be asking more questions about these numbers because right now he hardly looks "woodward-ish". As to the "dopes" on the council, lets remember they were duly elected by voters, at the very least.

But from what I can see from RoyDempsey's post, the Police/Fire1 plan's contribution will climb from approx 15million now to around 30million in 17 years. Considering the budget will grow due to the usual factors such as inflation by about 3% per year anyway, that 15million becomes 25million in 17 years ANYWAY. These are round numbers and there are all kinds of factors which can change, but it looks to me like the pension/fire1 burden is growing just a little faster than the budget as a whole. (and a few years after that, it goes away and the city has 30million less expenses). I'm not seeing a crisis here.

Now, as to OPEB, can any of you point to the expected increases over the same timeframe?

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