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John you make a valid point, however how do you expect to have that conversation when we can't even get Mayor Avedisian and most members of the City Council and the city employees to agree that we have a potential problem that needs further analysis to forecaste overall expenses and revenue for both the city and school budget over the next 5, 10, and 15 years to determine if we can fund all expenses while staying within legal property tax caps.

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