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I was making a point had enough that when a contract expires no union member gets a raise. They follow the provisions of the expired contract but no raises are given until an agreement is made.

I only mentioned the FD as they are working without a contract and have been for a year and they haven't received a raise to prove a point.

I do agree we downsize schools, teachers, we have less students attending and we should see savings but we dont. Every year they come back asking for millions.