Firefighter medical exams questioned

By ETHAN HARTLEY
Posted 1/8/19

By ETHAN HARTLEY Another financial practice of the Warwick Fire Department has raised more questions than answers at this time, as documents outlining negotiations for the 2012-15 collective bargaining agreement seem to conflict with the fiscal reality

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Firefighter medical exams questioned

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Another financial practice of the Warwick Fire Department has raised more questions than answers at this time, as documents outlining negotiations for the 2012-15 collective bargaining agreement seem to conflict with the fiscal reality of what has been funded within the fire department’s budget since then.

The line item in question – which is itemized under code 35-335 as “medical examinations” – is used to cover mandated medical tests that veteran firefighters are supposed to undergo each year. In prior contracts, most recently in the 2009-2012 deal, the contract has specifically stated that:

“Every employee forty-five [45] years or older may request a complete yearly physical by a doctor of his or her choice, which examination shall include an electrocardiogram, chest x-ray, complete blood count and urinalysis. Also, said employee may request a treadmill stress test...The cost of such examination and tests shall be paid by the City. The medical report to the City of said physical paid for by the City shall be limited to a report on whether the employee is fit and able to perform the duties of said employee’s position.”

However, in documents acquired and analyzed by the Beacon, the tentative agreement for the 2012-15 contract specifically removes a sentence of that provision, stating that the new deal would, “Eliminate provision for City to pay for annual medical exam and/or tests that are covered by any health insurance provider.” The change would, on the surface, appear to take the city off the hook paying for medical tests that otherwise are covered by firefighters’ Blue Cross insurance plan.

Along with the clear change mentioned in the tentative agreement, then-city Finance Director Ernest Zmyslinski produced a fiscal note delivered to then-Mayor Scott Avedisian and the City Council dated July 5, 2012 that specifically includes $58,000 in savings each of the three years of the contract due to not having to pay for the “Medical Exam Provision,” as outlined in the note.

Regardless of both of these facts, the medical evaluations line item was still given $80,000 in FY13 and was given $10,638 in FY14. It was then given $52,138 in FY15 and has received a base budget of $60,000 in fiscal years 2016-19 since.

More puzzling, however, is the varied fluctuations in how much money was actually spent out of these accounts throughout the years. For example, in FY11 – before eliminating the contractual provision that left the city on the hook for paying the medical exams – the line item was funded with $80,000. By the time the next budget rolled around, the department had used just $58 of that budget.

It has been a similar story lately as well. In FY18 – although the finalized figures are not out yet – as of May 2018 the fire department had only utilized $10 of their budgeted $60,000 for medical evaluations. However, this didn’t affect the city council’s decision to once again fund the same budget line item in the FY19 budget, again for $60,000.

In total, between FY10 and FY17, the fire department has under-spent this line item by a total of $188,015. Only twice in that span did they expend beyond the budget – in FY15 when they overspent by $7 and in FY16 when they needed an additional allotment of $2,569 to keep from overspending the original $60,000 budget.

It is not clear what has happened to funds left over from this line item because, after April 15 of each year, city departments can transfer funds from within their own budget without first seeking the approval of the city council. Fire department critics say that this provides an opportunity for the department to shuffle funds into their overtime budget.

A call to the administrative office for the Warwick Fire Department was not answered, nor was multiple calls to former fire union president Bill Lloyd, who was the union president at the time of the 2012-15 negotiations.

Current union president Michael Carreiro said that the contractual change was the result of an attempt at a compromise between the department and the city, but was ultimately found to be unfeasible.

“The intention was that some of the costs were high so we were trying to make some compromises with the city and the insurance carrier was going to pay for it,” he said. “Come to find out the insurance didn't pay for it because it was a requirement to have the physicals done. I think it was a misunderstanding between the insurance company and the city.”

When asked what tests might not be covered under their regular health insurance plan that would necessitate a budget line item in order to pay for them, Correiro did not provide a clear answer, as different firefighters have to take different tests, such as if they are on the hazmat unit. He said that the firefighters are supposed to go in for a normal round of testing every year but for reasons unbeknownst to him, that hasn’t been happening as it is supposed to be.

“I don't know the exact reason why we haven't had one this year,” he said. “That would be an administrative decision.”

The issue will likely be a topic of discussion at the Jan. 9 meeting of the City Council, as a docketed item is a request from the Warwick Fire Department to fund the medical evaluations line item with $125,000, which would be by far the largest allocation in the span of time researched by the Beacon for this article.

City Council President Steve Merolla said on Monday he knows which way he’ll be voting in regards to that request.

“We'll see what the rest of the council's position is, but in my opinion it's redundant. They have health insurance,” he said. “I've been saying this for years. To me, [the budgeted amount] was not used because it wasn't necessary.”

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  • wwkvoter

    The mayor and the council need to do the right thing with these issues, and get out the facts, because voter trust is at stake.

    Tuesday, January 8, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    What trust. I have no trust left in Warwick. The three recent WFD SCAMS, disclosed by resident ROB COTE, not the BEACON or other paid officials whose job it is to do it, proves this. This is just the tip of the ICEBERG! None if this has gone unknown to these people. They just play stupid when they get caught. Until they get caught it is a wink, wink, just vote for us attitude. The City Unions run this City. Always have, and always will. Thank you Mayor Avedisian, and all the current City Council members that have been there during all this time. SOLOMON (Now Mayor), MEROLLA, TRAVIS, GALLUCCI. ETC. Just the fact that they keep winning with union support, and most have their relatives getting City jobs, tells you all WE NEED TO KNOW. CORRUPTION, UNIONISM, AND NEPOTISM ARE ALIVE AND WELL IN WARWICK. Just a DISGUSTING fact, that won't change anytime soon. Remember, you get the government you deserve. Wake up sheeple, and pay atttention.

    Tuesday, January 8, 2019 Report this

  • Daydreambeliever

    Your a fraud Simoneau. Keep collecting that Providence pension you hypocrite !!!!!

    Tuesday, January 8, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    John Simoneau, the same guy who is getting a diabilty pension from province (for being looney) is going to talk about being overpaid.... absolutely laughable.. Christmas dinner must be fun with you.

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    I use my correct name. If you two COWARDS would like to say this to my face just name the time and place! You being cowards, You can both even come together. ...lol

    We ALL know you won't because you are COWARDS.

    GROW A SET ....

    LMFAO

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    How’s that TAX FREE disability pension. From your last comment I see why they gave it to you.

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    It's really good.

    Still waiting for the time and place .... COWARD !!

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Daydreambeliever

    Well seeing how u have no life and hang around the sea wall and follow the trucks around like Cote we know where you are most of the time.

    The way you glare at some of them is quite disturbing.

    Your on your own now your brother can no longer save your ass.

    As for being a coward I have to disagree but I’m keeping my pension and not getting sued by you or Ricky Bobby.

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Don't need my brother, never have, and never will. Especially for you.

    Still waiting for time and place to meet .... COWARDS !.

    If you know where I am most of the time, them please grow a set, and come talk to me ... COWARD.

    I'm waiting .....

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    By the way .... my evaluation of last night's swearing in, fir the readers:

    Wonderful night.

    I got to see just about all of the Warwick Democratic Party machine, past, present, and future. Even the crooked homosexual ex-Mayor Avedisian, the alleged Republican, was invited. All State house leaders also. Thank God scumbag Governor didn't show, but EVERYONE else. All their hack friends, family, and wannabes.

    I DON'T THINK MY PRAYERS WILL WORK ON ANYONE THERE. I tried. Then I BOOED all that needed it when others clapped and I left. Went home and took a long shower ... lol

    That room was like a mob get together. The pure DEFINITION of a Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) and why Warwick and all RI State Governments need the FEDS immediately. The problem is .... THEY ARE JUST AS BAD ... LOL

    God help us all.

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • richardcorrente

    Warwick, like every other municipality, had a system in place.

    Warwick, like every other municipality, had some people trying to take advantage. If I was in that system, I might care more about my family than my City, too. No one wants to pay a bill if they don't have to. I don't read anything in the above article that is a major offense. However, if I was the Mayor, I would tighten up these loopholes, just like Mayor Solomon and union president Mike Carreirois are doing. Carreiro has clearly explained how he and previous President Bill Lloyd legally and ethically negotiated the previous collective bargaining agreement with the Avedisian administration. If that agreement was too flexible or too vague, blame Avedisian. He OK'd it. The end result of this new negotiation should benefit everyone, including the 80,000 taxpayers that are paying the tab.

    Good job to everyone involved in this improvement, including Mayor Solomon and present union president, Mike Carreiro. I'm sure they invested many hours to make the system better for everyone.

    Happy Valentines everyone.

    Rick Corrente

    The Taxpayers Mayor

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Daydreambeliever are you the recently retired Warwick firefighter Steven Cahoon the COWARD?

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Corrente,

    You are an utter moron. This is the 3rd example, in as many months, of contract manipulation that was coordinated and orchestrated by several public officials including the finance director. 3 separate false fiscal notes were produced for the sole intent to deceive the city council and the taxpayers. Are you that stupid that you are unable to see the clear breach in the legal legislative process? How dumb can you possible be? Check your drinking water.

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • davebarry109

    Mr. Corrente, there are not 80,000 taxpayers in Warwick. You are confusing the amount of population vs. taxpayers. There are about 32,000 homes that pay property taxes. I don't have the amount of businesses but doubt it is 50,000. That would be nice.

    Please be accurate. You want to be mayor. Don't be Ocasio-Cortez and spout figures that are wrong.

    As for you clowns calling each other out on these pages, grow up.

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    davebarry.

    I'm just defending myself against trolling WFD member COWARDS, so I hope you aren't telling me to grow up. Right?

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • richardcorrente

    Dear Davebarry,

    We've been down this road before. I consider every person living in Warwick a taxpayer either directly or indirectly (as in a baby receiving high cost or low cost food, diapers, clothing, toys etc. due to the taxes paid by his/her parents)

    If you only want to list just those that directly send a check to the City of Warwick feel free.

    Happy Valentines everyone.

    Rick Corrente

    The Taxpayers Mayor

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Lets all stay on topic.

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Cat2222

    As a taxpayer, I would like to know where the money that wasn't spent on the line item was allocated. If it wasn't needed for medical examinations, where was it spent? It shouldn't be difficult to work up the numbers and provide the information. It isn't an unreasonable request. Finger pointing can happen once the investigation has concluded. Until then, simple answers would be very welcome.

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    Was lucky enough to be on hand to watch Simoneau just get slapped around by Ladaceur. You sir need mental help ASAP

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    You need help. I recall slapping around Finance Committee about having tax sales against 300+ taxpayers in 2014, and 100+ taxpayers in 2018 BUT NONE, I REPEAT NO TAX SALE FOR Councilwoman Travis's property owed since 2011. So City Council members property doesn't have tax sale for bill from 2011, which is still uunpaid, but 400+ regular taxpayers in Warwick had tax sales !!!!

    Is this you coward SCOTT ... DPW COWARD? Say it to my face COWARD .... woman beater !!

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • wwkvoter

    Was it just alleged that City Councilwoman Donna Travis has not paid her property taxes since 2011 and yet the city did not pursue tax sale as it has with hundreds of others who've owed for less time?

    Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Report this

  • Mechanicman22

    Cote

    Must be nice to have the council president giving you side information!! We are still waiting for you show all of us how you came up with your numbers..Old say lier’s figure and figures lie...still waiting on FBI too !! FAKE NEWS..

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Dear Mechanical dope,

    Don't be upset that I am surgically disecting your embarrassingly loose contract that now indicates a third example of fraud and contract manipulation. By the way, no one is giving me any information. It's commonly called "ACCESS to PUBLIC RECORDS.

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    Captain, where is the fraud. The chief clearly explained that the federal government (not contract) requires the 50 members of the Haz mat team to get a yearly exam. And when it wasn’t spent it went back into the general fund AS REQUIRED. What fraud?

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    WwkVoter ... Yes, with Mayor Avedisian, the whole Council including Mayor Solomon, Tax Collector Kyla Jones, Beacon, CH12,,and all other local news outlets including talk radio. given documentation numerous times since last year AND STILL NOT PAID and no story done !!!

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Mechanicman22

    Cote..

    Not my contact I work every day except Sundays to pay my bills!! I love how you can call everyone names, but when it’s done to you ,it’s bullying!!! I’m all for fairness but I just don’t jump on something with out seeing all the facts and you have delivered none..just your opinion..and opinions are like #*&%@s everyone has one

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Mechanicman22 .... I heard many facts cited. You have to listen to hear .... lol

    Keep you the GREAT work Mr. Cote !

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • CrickeeRaven

    WwkVoter, here is the link to the city's tax collection website: https://www.citizenselfservice.com/MSSProd/citizens/RealEstate/ParcelBrowse.aspx

    Mrs. Travis's address, as listed on her campaign finance reports, is 733 Oakland Beach Avenue.

    In reviewing the information provided by the city, it appears that she did, in fact, pay the taxes on that property; I have reviewed 2011 through 2018, and with the exception of two future scheduled payments in January and April, 2019, all payments are listed on the website as being made.

    I don't know Mr. Simoneau, and I haven't heard of his allegations before reading them here, but from a review of the information provided by the city on its website, it does not appear that Mrs. Travis failed to pay her property taxes.

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • CrickeeRaven

    davebarry, thank you for trying to talk sense to the two-time election reject about his delusional claim of 80,000 taxpayers in Warwick.

    You are correct, and he is wrong.

    His statement that taxpayers include "a baby receiving high cost or low cost food, diapers, clothing, toys etc. due to the taxes paid by his/her parents" is, literally, gibberish. As in, it isn't logical or coherent.

    And his reply "If you only want to list just those that directly send a check to the City of Warwick feel free" is only further proof of his delusional ideas, because, as we know, that is precisely what the term "taxpayer" means: Someone who pays taxes. Babies and children do not pay taxes.

    And yet, that specific, objective, and true definition of "taxpayer" is, according to the two-time election reject, not as valid as the one that he made up in his head.

    Of course, it's no surprise that the two-time election reject does not understand what a taxpayer is -- he lost his former residence to tax sale after failing to pay the taxes on it.

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Check the bill for 735 Oakland Beach Ave . The property used by her for parking and storage shed and husband's trailer and plowing equipment . They list it as owned by one of her alleged nonprofits Oakland Beach Real Estate Owners Association so they don't have to pay taxes. This organizations nonprofit status was revoked by Secretary of State for 20 months 20011 to 2012, so taxes owed and still not paid while interest accruing. Got status renewed after 20 months, so no taxes due since. This property owned by same alleged nonprofit years ago had a building that City had to tear down because neglected, so now used for their personal property tax free. City placed lien on property for tearing down cost of $3800. Later City released lien, although that wasn't paid either I believe. Lien release only says Cuty reached agreement with JONAH, another of her alleged nonprofits. All a scam and I think FRAUD on taxpayers of Warwick for years, and still continues.

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    CR,

    This is the parcel that Mr Simoneau is referencing. It is 735 Oakland Beach Ave. Listed as the OB owners association. It is property adjacent to Donna Travis house. The property has been used by her and her husband for years storing personal property on it, cars, trucks, snow plow, shed, campaign signs, etc... He is correct commenting that the taxes are unpaid. There have been several media reports pertaining to this item as it relates to the Travis's. Unpaid taxes are not new to Donna Travis. She has had delinquent property and auto taxes in the past.

    View Bill

    As of

    1/10/2019

    Bill Year 2011

    Bill 1127928

    Owner OAKLAND BCH R E OWNERS ASSOC

    Parcel ID 375-0212-0000

    View payments/adjustments

    Installment Pay By Amount Payments/Credits Balance Interest Due 1 7/15/2011 $330.96 $0.00 $330.96 $297.86 $628.82 2 10/15/2011 $330.96 $0.00 $330.96 $297.86 $628.82 3 1/15/2012 $330.96 $0.00 $330.96 $297.86 $628.82 4 4/15/2012 $330.97 $0.00 $330.97 $297.87 $628.84 Interest ** $0.00 $1,191.45 TOTAL $1,323.85 $0.00 $1,323.85 $1,191.45 $2,515.30 Total selected: $2,515.30

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • CrickeeRaven

    I appreciate the clarification, Mr. Simoneau and Thecaptain.

    Based on that information, I agree with your assessments -- that's a very serious issue.

    Thanks for explaining it further.

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Mechanicman22

    Simoneau..

    I’m waiting for Cote to produce his equations, like I’ve said any one can get names and post numbers to them. But show me how you got to that point!! All talk.. but I guess from other comments it’s ok for you to rob Providence tax payers...

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Mechanicman22.... I earned everything I get + more, so take your own advice and show facts. COWARD....

    Unless you have the courage to use your name in the future don't look for anymore responses to your foolish, dumb statements going forward from me. Now go away until you grow a set.

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    What "EQUATION" are you waiting for me to post? You sound ridiculous.

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • wwkvoter

    Thanks for the clarifications on Travis. Even though she stores stuff on the OB assn property, and it's taxes are apparently overdue, her own property tax is paid (sounds like with a few lates, but paid). I'm not in her district but it's important to be clear on these things.

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Your missing the point. This association is run by her and her family. They own it ....

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Everybody do this. Go to RI Secretary of State. Form a nonprofit. Sign your property over to that nonprofit, with your use for life. Live there, or use the property, tax free for life....... unless nonprofit status gets revoked for some reason. Brown University and other nonprofits have been doing this for years, especially with rich people on East Side. Newport, and apparently certain politicians in Warwick !

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Cat2222

    Mechanicman22,

    Thecaptain has provided his numbers and how he got to those numbers on numerous media sites. He has been on TV, radio and print discussing his research. Nothing has been hidden. He also has another citizen that has come to the same conclusion based on his independent research. Ken Block has certainly been instrumental in digging down on the WFD issue along with Cote. You are entitled to your opinion but your the one that hasn'tt provided facts to support your argument.

    The side deals are an issue. They were not passed through the council and voted on before they went into effect. The fact that the medical exams were not performed or followed up is also an issue. The money was earmarked for one purpose. If it isn't being used for that purpose, it shouldn't just get thrown back into the general fund. If it isn't used for that purpose, it should go back to the city to be used for another need. Pretty nonchalant attitude about taxpayers money if you ask me.

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Feel free to listen in at 3pm on WPRO.

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Great job on WPRO Mr Cote. I nominate you for a NEW paid position of Inspector General of Warwick.

    Warwick City Council are you listening?

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Great job on WPRO Mr Cote. I nominate you for a NEW paid position of Inspector General of Warwick, because no one else is doing it !

    Warwick City Council are you listening?

    Thursday, January 10, 2019 Report this

  • bendover

    I've read and seen enough...We have a new mayor and Council President...The question is, will they take this information and put it before a grand jury? This whole thing stinks to high heaven...I will not hold my breath for that to happen, after all, how can you be part of a solution when you were there during the problem? In short, they will never potentially put themselves in harms way of a possible criminal indictment...I can name at least 8 parts of Title XVIII, Chapters19-95 that very well could be applicable here...Where's Nehrona, sharing notes with Peter "guinness stout" Kilmartin? Mark my words nothing will happen unless 60 Minutes takes an interest in this issue..The new bosses will do NOTHING.

    Friday, January 11, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Ben Dover. You are exactly correct. Nerohna was at Warwick Inauguration event Tuesday. He is also part of the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization (RICO) known as RI POLITICIANS from both parties. Nothing will ever change unless ALL politicians removed at the same time, and that won't happen. Even the RI Judiciary is part of it. Look at Judge Stern gave a sentence to Providence councilman caught stealing over 100K, of immediate work release, and eligibility for parole in 6 months. Unconnected people stealing 100k don't get treated like that. But public does nothing.

    The only solution "may just be a revolution" .... , lol...

    and that won't happen once they take away your 2nd ammendment!

    Enjoy. You get the Government you allow and deserve !

    Friday, January 11, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Dear Mechanicaldope.

    If you missed it, here is the link for your listening pleasure.

    https://www.spreaker.com/user/wpro/robe-cote-1-10-full-podcast

    Friday, January 11, 2019 Report this

  • Mechanicman22

    As& bag Cote

    You are still not showing anything! I can tell my customers they need this and that.. put numbers on it and except them to pay.. but I don’t I bring them out and show them !! All talk and No play from you and you associates

    Friday, January 11, 2019 Report this

  • wwkvoter

    Thank you for posting that I am listening now as I am sure are others.

    Friday, January 11, 2019 Report this

  • Mechanicman22

    Cote!

    I get it .. Great! Going after the admission over couple hundred thousand dollars.!!! Why are you not looking into the school department where most of OUR tax dollars go! They close schools ! Have less teachers and want more money...millions verses thousands! Seems like you hate the ff

    Friday, January 11, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Mechanicaldope,

    Like I requested. Tell me what "EQUATION" you want and I will be more than happy to supply the math. By the way, a couple of hundred thousand dollars here and there adds up. There's the money for the chrome books, the pot holes, and the roof on the Buttonwoods Senior Center. Obviously you are not a businessman with any formal education in finance. My parents sincerely apologize to you for spending the money and educating me .

    Friday, January 11, 2019 Report this

  • Mechanicman22

    Cote

    Your right couple hundred is new books, but still not answering..schools closed=less teachers, but more money.... why are you not tearing them apart!

    Friday, January 11, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Mechanicaldope,

    Why aren't YOU tearing them apart? Do I have to do everything? Where is your allegiance to the taxpayer? What have you done Mr. Anonymous? ?????

    Friday, January 11, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    The simple fact here is why not wait for the audit. That will be the first clear step in determining cost, if any.

    Mr Cote, you have gone on radio and beacon and levied some pretty harsh allegations.

    If this story were half of what you say why haven’t the major news outlets (6,10,12) runwith it. (And not just a little side story).

    Lastly, the FBI is not investigating this matter, if you claim they are it is a lie and you are spreading false info. HEARSAY IS NOT FACT.

    I’ll wait for the audit.

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Umm, Jimmy,

    How do you know who is or is not investigating any matter? I guess you did not hear the council president on Wed. state that there was an ongoing investigation and an audit. 11 months so far has passed on the WFD sick time audit. Where is it?

    Oh yeah, you are correct, no major media has covered the issue. Only these tiny outlets liek the AP wire.

    https://www.providencejournal.com/news/20181019/sick-time-deal-warwick-firefighters-could-take-cash-preserve-time

    https://www.providencejournal.com/news/20181015/warwick-firefighters-sick-pay-under-scrutiny

    http://warwickonline.com/stories/invalid-deal-among-new-allegations-against-fire-dept,137512

    https://turnto10.com/news/local/warwick-firefighters-file-grievance-over-unused-sick-pay

    https://www.wpri.com/target-12/the-documents-behind-warwick-s-unused-sick-time-payout-concerns/1320876922

    https://www.wpri.com/target-12/warwick-investigating-potentially-costly-mistake-in-unused-sick-time-bonuses/1281468303

    http://warwickonline.staging.communityq.com/stories/fire-dept-grilled-on-sick-time-accounting-practices,134440

    https://www.firehouse.com/careers-education/news/21036349/warwick-ri-mayor-promises-reform-restitution-over-firefighter-pay-issue

    http://oceanstatecurrent.com/longer-twitter/monetized-warwick-firefighter-sick-time-is-straight-up-rip-off-of-taxpayer/

    http://www.cranstononline.com/stories/anonymous-fire-code-complaint-investigation-continues,138506

    And this does not include all of the links to radio shows that have covered this issue. Jimmy, mechanical dope, daydreambeliever, Corrente, etc... All of you are living in a dream world. An anonymous dream world.

    Still waiting for mechanicaldope to indicate which "EQUATIONS" he wants.

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    Captain,

    Once again I’ll state this as fact THERE IS NO FBI INVESTIGATION.

    Secondly, the council president stated “there are 3 ongoing I DONT WANT TO CALL THEM INVESTIGATIONS, I’ll call them inquiries or grievances”

    Listen to your own tape 1:18:03

    You can’t even listen unto your own argument. STOP WITH THE LIES.

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Jimmy,

    After he states what you said then at 1:18:23 he states "there are other investigations going on". Or did I imagine that. But you know for sure. What a joke.

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    Captain,

    He clearly states with regards to the contract and the three issues , there are grievances NOT INVESTIGATIONS. He does say there are other investigations. He did not say what it was over, and again I know you don’t like fact but here is FACT. THERE IS NO, NONE, NOTTA, ZERO, investigations being done by the FBI.

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    I guess Jimmy, you r deaf and dumb.

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    Classy, Rob....

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Jimmy,

    Here's another link for you.

    https://www.facebook.com/JohnDePetroRadio/videos/2326865457550131/?eid=ARAuMSM_exWm8C-DnD02HP8yuko5C0Ael7TEeU7DFlSik3TJCKWwPtCC6ueXyLT61bTik_2vyPh9K09L

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    Oh yea, if John DiPetro says it’s true it must be.... lol I didn’t even know that guy still had a show.

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Ummm, Jimmy,

    Due to your limited memory, I am just responding to your statement that no media paid attention to the story. Guess you were a bit less than accurate, eh?

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    Captain,

    DiPetro is not the media....

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Jimmy .... or whoever you really are... COWARD ..

    I'll answer your question.... if what you say is true, and I don't believe it, "why isn't the media covering it" ..

    Like Mr Cote proved with ALL his posts to your question ..

    Even giving you the benefit of the VERY LIMITED doubt ...

    They aren't covering it because they don't report news ... they suppress the news and only report THEIR LIBERAL VERSION OF THE TRUTH... ... in this specific case they don't want to report anything negative against the Racketeet Influenced Corrupt Organization (RICO) which is the local SWAMP ... Democratic, and UNION controlled BS ... media is part of the problem in America nowadays. They only report what HELPS their agenda.. and that is anything Anti-TRUMP, and pro-swamp... political class BS ....NOT TRUTH ..... in RI that is ALL DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED CORRUPTION ... and their UNION FRIENDS ...

    Saturday, January 12, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    John, why do you stay here if you hate it so much? You should take your TAX FREE DISABILITY PENSION your UNION helped get and go live in Alabama.

    Sunday, January 13, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Speaking of disability pensions, why did Bill Lloyd retire so early. He left with Avedisian and Mcloughlin. He only did 20 years. Was it a disability pension due to the alcohol problem?

    Sunday, January 13, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Jimmy .... or who ever you are. I don't quit and give in to corrupt people. Everything I got I earned, plus more. You asked a question, and I gave you the answer. The truth. I can't help it if you are in denial and lie to yourself.

    I use my full REAL name behind what I say to you or anyone else. Why can't you? .... Wait, I know. Because you have no truth to say, just lies, lies, lies. Jealousy is not becoming of you JIMMY.

    I stay to torture you and ALL those like you. COWARD !

    Sunday, January 13, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Some Warwick Fire Department Change of Shift facts

    From 7/1/2016 through 5/31/2017, 1,539 changes of shift were awarded.

    417 changes of shift were requested for the day before a scheduled 4 days off.

    394 changes of shift were requested for the day after a scheduled 4 days off.

    46% of changes of shift were adjacent to a change of shift on the next day for the same firefighter.

    207 Warwick firefighters requested at least one change of shift.

    16 Warwick firefighters took at least 5 more change of shift schedule changes than they provided. By contract, change of shift is supposed to ..

    4 Warwick firefighters took at least 10 more change of shift schedule changes than they provided.

    12 Warwick firefighters gave at least 5 more change of shift schedule changes than they provided.

    3 Warwick firefighters gave at least 10 more change of shift schedule changes than they provided.

    Private Waterman worked 14 change of shifts for Private Salisbury, who did not work a single change of shift in exchange.

    Private Salisbury is a unique situation, as he strung together a huge number of shifts off in a row using changes of shift, along with sick days and vacation time. Salisbury took 30 Changes of shift while giving back 7. He took 29 vacation days, and also took 12 sick days. Salisbury only worked 110 shifts in our set of data, and we presume that he earned a full time salary for the year, as well as overtime working 3 shifts.

    His time off is extraordinary. He was off for 28 days from 7/21/2016 – 8/17/2016, using only vacation time and the regularly scheduled off days. He was also off for 14 days from 12/2/2016 – 12/15/2016, using 6 changes of shift plus his regularly scheduled days off. He also was not at work for 12 days from 1/5/2017 – 1/16/2017, using 4 straight sick days. He was out for 22 days from 3/8/2017 – 3/29/2017 using both vacation time as well as changes of shift. He was out for 26 days from 4/8/2017 – 5/3/2017. The listed extended off time above amounts to Waterman’s other uses of change of shift served to extend his normal 4 off days by at least one extra day. He long absences (which are not illness related) amount to 102 days.

    Changes of shift frequently are used on either side of 4 scheduled days off.

    Monday, January 14, 2019 Report this

  • Daydreambeliever

    Way to stay on topic Captain Ricky Bobby ( your words ).

    It’s an article on medical exams not Change of shifts.

    I heard you were at Dave’s again videoing the men shopping and then taunting them at the red light.

    Grow up there is no need for that. Make your claims at council meetings or Dan York but stop with the juvenile behavior it’s rather sickening.

    Monday, January 14, 2019 Report this

  • richardcorrente

    Interesting fact:

    68 comments to date and only two came from people who didn't hide behind a fake name. Me and John Simomeau Jr.

    For the rest of you, how can you think the readers will believe your comments are honest, if you don't have the honesty to even use your real name?

    Happy Valentines everyone.

    Rick Corrente

    The Taxpayers Mayor

    Monday, January 14, 2019 Report this

  • Crickee_Raven

    Nearly every claim made by the two-time election reject has been proven false when compared with publicly available and easily found information.

    Where he could have admitted to his tax delinquency, instead he denied public information that proved his failure to pay property taxes, leading to the loss of his former residence to tax sale, and claimed he had “won” a court case against his lender.

    Where he could have corrected his false claims about changes in Warwick’s population and school enrollment — based on numbers that he invented by misinterpreting legitimate data — instead he repeated them, over and over again, showing that he did not care how completely the facts proved him wrong.

    Where he could have corrected his version of how the FY18 budget was passed, instead he kept repeating the claim that his failed 2016 campaign influenced the city council to cut spending and taxes over former Mayor Avedisian's "tax increasing amendments" — when, in fact, every single part of his claim was proven to be a lie.

    Where he could have tried to earn his party’s endorsement, instead he first falsely claimed on his website that he had it, and then attacked his party as “political insiders” when he didn’t receive it, despite the fact that many of those same people contributed to his 2016 campaign.

    As if all that weren’t enough, he used this website as a free advertising platform for his campaign activities, attacking others, making wild accusations against public officials, and using a fake title that he neither earned nor deserved.

    He is the last person who should be accusing others of dishonesty, and his continued behavior proves that honest, taxpaying voters were 100% correct in rejecting his candidacy twice.

    Monday, January 14, 2019 Report this

  • Cat2222

    Oh man, this is highly entertaining. People are losing their S*&t all over comments. Screws are definitely loose. You will never win an argument or debate by losing your temper and calling people names. Whatever supposed credibility you think you hold for not having a user name flies out the window as soon as you start with the all caps, exclamation points and temper tantrums.

    Side agreements are the issue here, not name calling. Debate the facts, not the personalities.

    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Cat,

    Stay tuned, more coming on side agreements. It is far from over. Already approximately 1 million dollars has been absconded on the side agreements. That doesn't include what the retirees took upon leaving. That info is coming soon.

    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Coward !!!!

    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Report this

  • Daydreambeliever

    Captain Ricky Bobby please don't forget the side deal the firefighters, police and municipal did for the city They all took a 5% pay cut for 6 months as a side deal to help the city.

    According to you all side deals are illegal so all personnel either retired or active should be reimbursed.

    I'm sure many have retired so we will have to recalculate their pensions including mine.

    Thank you for making it clear side deals are illegal so the city has to be on the hook to pay everyone.

    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Daydreambeliever .... I believe the point made about side deals being illegal related to just those side deals that were not brought back to and approved by the CITY Council. If the City Council approved the exact side deal they voted on, based on the real representations of the administrations, then those are legal and binding. Those executed outside this description ARE NOT.

    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Report this

  • Daydreambeliever

    Jon the city council did not vote on the concessions by all 3 unions. That was a side deal between the mayor and unions and it was well publicized. So according to Cote all side deals are considered illegal. I’m just wondering if this will be recalculated to all 3 unions both retired and not.

    It has to do with weekly pay, holidays, overtime, details, sick time, etc.

    All are tied into everyone’s salary so I’m sure 5% reimbursement will help many.

    Where were the present day accusers back then when the unions helped the city ?

    By the way the teachers didn’t make any concessions back then to the dismay of the other 3 unions.

    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Any side agreements not approved by the council are null and void. So if what you say is true, I think the Courts will see your issue as being voluntary. If people voluntarily give things back then it's gone. If the Council didn't voluntarily give back, and approve what was illegally given away, then it will be voided.

    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Daydream douche,

    Why dont you post the documents or the links, or the PCR's, or the dates so that we can vet your BS information. Because, the analysis has already shown that the supposed "give backs" were rewarded with other "side deals" so there was actually no savings. You are so full of crap Steve Cahoon, it isn't even funny.

    But stay tuned, just wait til you see what comes next. WFD bunch of thieves. What did you have over Avedisian? Maybe some compromising pics?

    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Great Job Mr. Cote. Keep exposing them.COWARDS AND LIARS !

    LMFAO

    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Report this

  • Daydreambeliever

    What a class act you are Ricky Bobby. Trust me I wish we had cell phones back when you were at Dave’s Bar and Grille rubbing all the waitresses having them sit on your lap.

    Bringing young girls in the back door at your Dive Shop.

    Sadly we missed our opportunity but keep parking at the end of Groveland and admiring someone we will catch you Ricky Bobby unless her father does first.

    Keep sitting at the Masthead Grille spewing your vile and flirting. Warwick is small Ricky Bobby everyone knows everyone.

    Again Ricky Bobby im not Steve Cahoon although I did work in the same era but retired before he did.

    As for what comes next nobody is fired, nobody has been charged so keep dredging up things.

    Solomon runs this city not Ricky Bobby or Merolla.

    Oh I almost forgot stop swinging by WFD Headquarters and whining to the Chief to control what we retired guys say in here.

    My daughters reads this and that who cares you fired the first shot and continually do so.

    Tuesday, January 15, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Funny stuff !!

    Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Daydreams,

    You seem to forget that you guys mentioned it was an accounting error and then you hire your own accounting firm Ward Fisher. Where is their report proving my numbers incorrect?

    When will we see the report?

    Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Report this

  • Bob_Cushman

    Daydreambeliever, you state, “Please don't forget the side deal the firefighters, police and municipal did for the city. They all took a 5% pay cut for 6 months as a side deal to help the city”.

    Using official City Budget document I decided to analyze the 100 level line items that include the employee Salary, Sick time, OT and vacation, etc. expenses and the employee benefit line items that consist of pension, healthcare and other benefits to determine if real dollars were saved by this so called 5% pay cut side deal.

    Here are my findings.

    Expenses related to Salary line items

    2009 - $50,258,262

    2010 - $47,864,060

    2011 - $49,759,926

    2012 - $50,224,984

    2013 - $50,485,471

    2014 - $51,149,635

    2015 - $51,863,673

    2016 - $54,479,733

    2017 - $55,226,802

    Expenses related to Employee Benefits line items

    2009 - $41,330,889

    2010 - $41,660,044

    2011 - $44,166,673

    2012 - $46,437,558

    2013 - $50,782,594

    2014 - $51,085,107

    2015 - $54,720,143

    2016 - $55,605,684

    2017 - $56,620,662

    Combined expenses & change from previous year

    2009 - $91,589,151

    2010 - $89,524,104 (-$2,065,047)

    2011 - $93,926,599 (+$4,402,495)

    2012 - $96,662,542 (+$2,735,943)

    2013 - $101,268,065 (+$4,605,523)

    2014 - $102,234,742 (+$966,677)

    2015 - $106,583,816 (+$4,349,074)

    2016 - $110,085,417 (+$3,501,601)

    2017 - $111,847,464 (+$1,762,047)

    Conclusion: whatever concessions were implemented by the administration and agreed to by the unions resulted in only 1 year (2009 to 2010) where expenses were reduced. Those saving were wiped out in the 2011 year as expenses increased by $4.4 million, meaning the temporary cuts were restored above and beyond the cuts.

    Bottom line: Expenses related to the 3 municipal union salary and benefits have steadily increased at times by very significant amounts year over year and whatever concessions that were agreed to through either “side agreements” or contractual, DID NOT reduced overall employee expenses and the 5% pay cut argument you make is nothing more than a fallacy.

    Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Thank you Bob Cushman for your expert analysis which completely debunks the Daydreamers claim. In particular, your numbers also support another claim that I have made publicly for quite some time.

    As you are aware we have both been heckled for making statements that in the contract years of the no wage increase (2013-15), there was manipulation of overtime that took place particularly within the fire department. I received from the city, a list of each firefighter that was on the unused sick pay report. I was given their base salary and their year end wage for each of those 3 years. There were 114 men on the report and all but one man showed a significant increase in wage in each of the 3 years. Some as much as $40,000 increase in each year.

    It was very clear and obvious that there was sicktime/overtime manipulation and you will note that this was the time period where the 3 schemes that have recently been made public, were put into effect.

    So the Daydreamer can make all of the unsubstantiated claims that he wishes (without substantiation) but the numbers and the departments nefarious behavior tells a much different story.

    I am wondering why the department has not released any of the numbers that have been produced by the unions own accounting firm Ward Fisher? Maybe it is because they like me so much that they don't feel it would be appropriate to prove me wrong? Maybe they just want to keep the findings all to themselves because they feel it would be inappropriate to defend themselves? Or maybe their own CPA firm will produce a report which indicates that we have had a bunch of lying stealing conniving selfish stealing dirt bags running this department and stealing from our children for many many years.

    Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Ooops,

    Almost forgot this one thing.

    How was it that in the "pay freeze" period of 2013-15, (that they brag about saving the taxpayer so much $$), how did we pay and additional $9,921,274 in wages? I wonder if the Daydreamer can offer any explanation to these numbers that come directly from the city budget documents? Anyone care to chime in?

    Answer - its called manipulation

    Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    CORRECTION:

    Ooops,

    Almost forgot this one thing.

    How was it that in the "pay freeze" period of 2013-15, (that they brag about saving the taxpayer so much $$), how did we pay and additional $9,921,274 in wages and benefits? I wonder if the Daydreamer can offer any explanation to these numbers that come directly from the city budget documents? Anyone care to chime in?

    Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Report this

  • rifirefighter4life

    It is comical how Rob Cote is allowed to smear the hard working members of the City of warwick (fire dept and public works) but he wont pull his antics with the cops, why? because the public works guys and the firefighters dont have any recourse against him but the cops could pull him over after having a few too many and really jam him up. He is the voice of the vocal minority and we all laugh every time he films us and chucks us the bird and calls our bosses and the mayor wanting us suspended. He even has the former rat cop Simenaeu doing the same stuff, but with Simenaeu he scares me because he is a former cop and seems unstable when he is filming city workers and the FD in his pajamas. I live in OB and could care less if a fire truck or a city truck drives by the seawall and this is what all of my neighbors feel as well. Hopefully the Solomon administration will deal with Rob and his cronies and tell them to leave us alone. Maybe the new police chief will have the cahonies to let his officers deal with these goons unlike the former colonel.

    Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Report this

  • Warwick Man

    Captain,

    Why would the union not hire their own accounting firm. They be idiots not too, facts are facts and two sets of eyes are better than 1. Secondly WHY do they need to share any of that info with you. You have no right to see that info in advance . I’m sure it will come out in time, as will all the answers to your smear campaign.

    Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Jimmy,

    When a resident steps up to the podium and asks a question on finances in the venue that is allowed by law, it is a smear campaign. But when a resident asks a question in public and the fire fighters fill the room and whistle and crow and swear, that's just ok?

    Maybe your too stupid to understand that every resident has a right to ask financial questions, request documents under the law (by the way its called APRA) and hold all public officials accountable. THAT'S THE LAW !

    The problem is that when you union thugs get called out for intimidation, manipulation, and abuse of the system, now the few that are paying attention are the bad guys. And its all you "hero's" that remain anonymous. Bunch of ball less individuals who spend too much time patting themselves on the back. You would never survive in the private sector. NEVER

    Just for the record, the police department has been scrutinized as well. The difference is that there is not the level of incompetence and abuse in the police department. These people are of much higher moral character than the side deal signing crooks and the guys that hide out in the woods in dpw trucks. By the way, I'm waving to you, can you guess which finger??

    Also, the fire dept. CPA firm has completed their analysis. Why don't they make it public to defend the department? Because it is difficult to defend thievery.

    Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    RIFIREFIGHTER4LIFE ...... COWARD..

    I don't wear pajamas, unlike you and you pervert family and friends. Stop by and see me to find out. Oh yeah, that's right ... you say I scare you ... lol ... the only smart thing you've said in years. I got 3 words for you COWARDS in response ...

    YOU SHOULD BE

    Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Report this

  • richardcorrente

    Dear Readers,

    Dear Cat and also Cat2222,

    Over 90 comments on this polarizing article and the most level-headed comments are from "Cat" on 1-9 and "Cat2222" on 1-10. They MUST be the same person. No finger-pointing. No insults. (even when she/he is commenting about me).

    I believe they are both the same person, and a class act as well.

    Cat. Are you also Cat2222? You shouldn't be associated with some of these other commenters who need to hide in the shadows behind a fake name, because they are all too cowardly to speak from their honest name, but Cat, and Cat2222, that's not you. You're better than that. I suggest you speak your honest words from your honest name.

    Just a thought.

    Rick

    Thursday, January 17, 2019 Report this

  • Jasjames

    Mr. Taxpayers Mayor. Why no comment about your fellow Democrat Donna Travis using her alleged nonprofit property as her own to avoid taxes on it, that owes City over $2500 since not paying taxes for 20 month period when nonprofit status was revoked by SOS?

    In 2014 & 2018 Tax Collector had almost 500 tax sales for people owing water and sewer bills, but none for her property since 2011 bill? And she votes for $$ for City to have more water and sewer tax sales. Alot less then $2500.

    Thursday, January 17, 2019 Report this

  • Cat2222

    Same person, 1 account. Drop down under "Your name: is different depending on the technology I am using to comment. My thoughts are still valid even under my user name. Pick either one - they are both me. I don't bother finger pointing or name calling because it serves zero purpose. I am only interested in facts, numbers and evidence. Without it, everything else is just white noise.

    I have no desire to compromise the integrity of our firefighters. I have nothing but respect for the work they do. My issue is really with the union leadership and the former administration. The side deal was really nothing more than a shell game. If it was approved as other contractual issues no one would be raising a red flag. My concern is making sure the practice of side deals is stopped. Any and all deals should follow the process and be reviewed by our leadership in an open and transparent manner. I think that is only fair considering the compensation isn't coming from a for-profit private sector. It is coming from the citizens of Warwick.

    I think the time of doing the same thing just because it was always done that way is over. We need to start fresh. Review everything (all sectors, not just the WFD) with new eyes. We need to find better, more efficient ways of doing business. Let's be accountable to our stockholders - the taxpayers! We can make it happen. We just have to work together and throw out personal agendas.

    Thursday, January 17, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    Cat,

    How about this one. A senior citizen comes before the council because she hit a pot hole and blew out a tire. She waits 2 hrs to ask to be re-reimbursed for the damage. The council appeals committee headed by Donna Travis tells her that she is the first person to report that pot hole so they cannot pay her. Any idea how many times I saw Travis do that during the time period where she was 2 years tax delinquent on property and automobile taxes.

    But worse, the council tries to justify this saying no one else has reported it yet we have in excess of 100 trucks, plus city cars on the road all day. None of which are equipped with GPS to tag the location to be fixed.

    The city management is a mess, it needs a complete overhaul, but do not hold your breath.

    Thursday, January 17, 2019 Report this

  • Cat2222

    Thecaptain,

    I vacillate between positivity and negativity daily in regards to politics. I usually come out on the positive side. I do not think change will be easy but I think it can happen. We have had a changing of the guards, kind of. I know that there is a lot of baggage that comes along with Solomon and he certainly had a hand in helping the city get to where we are today but I am still hoping he will do the right thing. There can't be only a handful of people holding the leadership accountable. It will take all of us willing to speak up and keep our elected officials honest!

    Thursday, January 17, 2019 Report this

  • Thecaptain

    I agree, unfortunately there are things that already should have been done in the last 8 months which have not even been initiated. That concerns me greatly. I would expect if this administration is going to be forthright and honest, a very frank "State of the City" address should be coning soon. The news will not be good. I can assure you that we will see maximum tax increase for several years to come and most likely a supplemental tax as well.

    Thursday, January 17, 2019 Report this

  • ThePilot

    Hey Captain how's that FBI investigation going?

    Thursday, January 17, 2019 Report this